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    Post by Pyriel32 Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:10 pm

    After fixing anouther drink he walks back to the table and sits , well ?
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    Post by Reanna Aloi Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:43 pm

    Reanna watches Pyriel for a moment, giving a slight shake of her head.

    "Well? I can say things have definitely changed for you." She pauses for a moment, a thought occurring to her.

    "What about Intel?"
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    Post by Pyriel32 Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:22 am

    I have to wait till Baumer gets back to find out if he still wants me a head of intel. OH well it's a nice break. JOnjah has decided that she will retire from starfleet. Sitting back in his chair you see him look longingly up at the stair leading to his quarters. The Tuskegee will be reasigned to anouther captain, they said they need the ship else where.The Tuskegee left for Starbase 1 last night. Currently I have no idea what ship i will be assigned to me, you see true saddness creep into his eyes . Sigh oh well.
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    Post by Reanna Aloi Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:26 am

    Reanna quirks an eye at Pryiel at the mention of him being reassigned another ship.

    "Why bother commanding, Pyriel when you know there is room aboard the Immortal?"
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    Post by Pyriel32 Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:35 am

    Pyriel smiles and gives her arm a fatherly pat. Thank you but out of respect for you I can't do that too many Captains on a bridge is like haveing too many chefs in a kitchen it just dosn't work. Sigh any way they said they would be sending my next command with in the month. Pyriel looks down at the drink hin his hand as if seeing it for the first time and takes a long pull from it.
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    Post by Hogg J (JarHok) Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:50 am

    "Does not sound all bad" says JarHok as he reaturs with a drink from the replicator.

    "Well I gess somebody will have to take your former Admrials postion and I hear tell that person is me".

    "In fact I have the box with the pips in now".

    "I do wonder what they will send you as your next command".
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    Post by Reanna Aloi Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:03 am

    She playfully flicks her finger at his patting arm.

    "So, what kind of ship do you think you'll get. Me, I think you should get one of those itty bitty," she pauses for a moment, thinking, "is it a Miranada?" She laughs.
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    Post by Pyriel32 Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:55 am

    Ugh I served on a Miranada a long time ago hopefully i won't again but who knows. Pyriel finishes off his drink and looks over at the bar .
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    Post by Hogg J (JarHok) Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:02 am

    "Well you never know Pyreil beaing an Admiral now I shall see what I can do and pull a few strings"
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    Post by Pyriel32 Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:14 am

    Nah trust me you don't want to get in the middle of this , I'm on punishment so i will take it as a vacation for now.
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    Post by Hogg J (JarHok) Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:16 am

    "Allright then perhaps you are right and that I dont medal".
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    Post by Reanna Aloi Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:19 am

    *eyes JarHok with a crusty look and a shake of the head* "I'm sure Pyriel would just love to be stuck on one of them rust buckets, JarHok," she says, pursing her lips in humor.

    "Lord only knows when the seat would fall off, or the floor rust from beneath his feet."
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    Post by Pyriel32 Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:29 am

    Ha ha very funny little girl , he stands up and walks over to the bar this time tapping a few keys on the replicator and takes out a steaming plate of pasta in white sauce. Turning he grabs a jug of iced tea from the counter and heads back to the table with his food. I for one know that what ever ship they do send i just hope I have a good crew to command .
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    Post by Seeker Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:32 am

    OOC: I'm going to follow the lead that a few weeks has passes since the last time

    IC Comander Anders enters the salon from a upper entrance to the promenade the weeks had passed slowly and every one was a bit depressed with the new of the destruction of the Uss serenity, and the treat of undine invasion luming. every one it seemed down but the high end leader ship they seemed to still expect his return in the way that acted; what ever the adramil was up too he had to make others think he was dead but he was not fooled.

    Comander Allan ( a lager black man think smaual l jackson) and Lt Susan Gomez tall blond) enter on the lower level as the cross to a teble in the back part of want that say can be hread.

    Lt Gomez: i can't belive the captains gone before we even had our first mission alogon with our chief engineer and head of security. that got to be a sign of back luck like a really big ablatross.

    Allen: i know i hard to bealive their gone, and i'm stuck agin i took thi post to get out of the captains chair and back in feild work and here I'm again.

    LT gomez: you had your own ship?

    Allen: a small one it still near the rumulan border but hated being stuck in the chair so came here, dad did not undertsnd very well but that for him not me.........( and they trail off)

    Anders see the group of 3 and begins to cross to them. timing could of been better witht the treat from the undine but they needed to know from him, but head play it cool as the earthers say for now.

    Anders: good day sirs
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    Post by Pyriel32 Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:44 am

    Greetings
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    Post by Reanna Aloi Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:50 am

    Reanna is about to respond to Pyriel, it turning into a simple nod as she looks up at Anders.

    She gives Pyriel and JarHok a humorous, queried look.
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    Post by Hogg J (JarHok) Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:58 am

    JarHok cloaks Reanna's gaze and hides a smile but mubbles only so that the people at the table can hear "New Crewman just off soem ship I should think".

    He then tunrs and addresses Anders and says "Wellcome Anders, see yu made it throught he throung on the promnade to find your way hear".
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    Post by Seeker Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:17 am

    Ignoring the side comment that if he was like them would of missed, he was far too old and good at hiding to slip up on some thing like that, they seemed to think him some new or rookie commander, still unsure if that was good or bad.

    Anders: Its quite busy this time of day, it would be easier if one could rise above it but i made it through alright, and it has been busy with ship staying in dock for safety i trust our weeks have been mostly uneventful, and enjoyable it good to see you back admiral Pyriel. though i was surprised to see you ship leave with out you.
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    Post by Reanna Aloi Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:20 pm

    Reanna turns an expectant eye to Pyriel.
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    Post by Seeker Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:33 pm

    Anders: for give my intrusion but i had hope to speak with with the comade staff it introduce my self and address situation. with baumer no long with us i believe that puts you in charge of the station.

    As pyrial is soaking in his comment he turns to Reana then jarhok,

    Anders: I was also curuise both of you too come to the federation through non traditional mean being kligion ship and crew and a former bounty hunters how do these special commendations work?
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    Post by Garfunkel64 Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:25 am

    At that moment Garfunkel bursts into the saloon singing "Walk Like A Man" by the Four Seasons. He spots a table-full of his fellow crew and heads that direction, signaling to the nearest waitress he'd have his usual. He finds an open seat at the table and plops into the one adjacent to Reanna. "So, we need a new F.A., and I'm not one for gratuitous paperwork..." he says as the waitress sets down a nicely made Jack & Coke. Garfunkel looks up to her questioningly knowing that this was not his 'usual' drink. The waitress turns and points to a nice looking Orion woman sitting at the far end of the bar from his position, upon seeing his line of sight meet hers, she smiled and gave a slight, ladylike, wave. Garfunkel returned it with a warm smile and wink, turning back to the table and conversation at hand, taking a sip of his J&C.
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    Post by Seeker Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:41 pm

    Anders look st the new arvial with his cold practice Vulcan look betraying none of the emotions inside

    Anders: you are in a joval mood sir what has transpired to make you so happy?

    ( behind him he see the orions and Garfunkel exchange, he thought traval to the humman exprestion eye in the back of your head, these eyes where a interesting thing he had come to enjoy it was hard to appreciate art or beauty with out them but their where very poor sessory organs considering they could only take in what was right in front of them. clearly why they wished for some in the back as well I wound why they did not evolve that way)
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    Post by Reanna Aloi Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:52 am

    Reanna is about to answer Anders when Garfunkel bursts into the room. She watches his antics for a moment, shaking her head as he sits next to her. She looks to Anders.

    "As to how the commendation works, I do not know. It was all arranged by Baumer and Pryiel, to some degree," she looks his way. "I was told not to worry about it," she explains.

    "And I am definitely not FA material," she says to Garfunkel, "that will be up to you boys," she adds, leaning forward upon the table.
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    Post by Hogg J (JarHok) Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:17 pm

    JarHok casually turns around watching Garfunkel enter the second chance saloon before resuming what he was doing.

    Remembering what Anders had asked he responded saying “As for the FA situation I’m not sure depends on whether you’re referring to Pyreil hear enough that’s the case has already been dealt with but if you’re referring to Baumer then the situation isn’t so clear, mostly remains to be seen but for the moment I think leaving things as this for a short time seems like the best solution as things could change we don’t know”.

    “As well as for me being here on serenity station I can say that I was here before this war started as a Klingon Ambassador to the station”.

    “I may fly around in a Klingon ship with a Klingon crew I also do happen to have a Federation ship at my disposal will with the Federation crew as well as I find myself on both sides of the fence in this war”.

    “I had to say it would be better if the Federation and Klingon remained our lives some other Klingons like myself think the same thing but I do live think Starfleet does have a few things to answer for because of some of its methods and decisions that it has made”.
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    Post by Seeker Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:36 pm

    Anders: while their a heavy tenchens i though we where at peace with the kilgon empire, these Undine and Tenzenthki are the real threat right now aren't they.

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