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    Water Down Cartoon

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    Qugie
    So very pretty

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    Water Down Cartoon

    Post by Qugie on Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:54 am

    I really don't like this Cartoon look they going with for the game



    The ships look fake. They would do better with a Old Engine like
    Unreal 2 then what I'm seeing here. Coming from Lineage II and use to more
    realistic looking game (yea it's all cartoon but do you want Killer Instinct
    cartoon or Street Fighter Cartoon?) I like the more realistic cartoon


    I want my Ships to look more like this




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    Re: Water Down Cartoon

    Post by Baumer on Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:13 pm

    Agreed. I want that too. Some of the earlier screenshots did look closer to that quality than these do... I don't know what changed Sad

    That may be a question for the next "Ask Cryptic"

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    Re: Water Down Cartoon

    Post by Stronin on Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:20 pm

    There are limitations to what they can do. If you had more than 1 of
    those on screen, no one would be able to play beyond 3 frames per
    second.

    Games have extremely limited memory budgets they have to hit based off
    of the number of players the expect to be on screen at one
    time.

    And yes perpetual had a relatively respectible looking akira render.
    However that was just a visual test, nothing more. That was one ship,
    and that one ship probably took up 90% of the render engines
    capabilities, and thats assuming it was even being rendered at anything
    resembling real time = 30fps

    I'm just glad they didn't make it look like WoW, ya know? Smile

    Qugie
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    Re: Water Down Cartoon

    Post by Qugie on Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:12 am

    That's that all true with today's systems. My computer is 5 years old yet Lineage II has the Graphics I like and we can have 300 people in the same area during a seige and I have lag for about 45 secs while my hard drive try feed all the textures and then I have no lag . yes it tales up 1.2 gigs of memory just to run the game but like I said my system is 5 years old and runs at 30 fps with no problem. and yes when I build it 5 years ago it had the best of everything .....still proves they can beef up the game some. people have more powerfull systems today just buying a budget system.




    That's what it should look like and that's game play Graphics. watch in high quality and you will see what I mean.


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    Re: Water Down Cartoon

    Post by Baumer on Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:36 am

    Just wanted you to know that I posed the question and will probably be properly executed by the STO community for it. However, it is a relevant question and I think i posed it politely. I hope so anyway.

    If you would like to see the discussion, it's located here:

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...544#post366544

    I really hope a developer responds or puts it into the next "Ask Cryptic" or somthing like that.

    Here is a responce that I got from a community member... didn't see this q&a but so far this is all I have:

    Originally Posted by NYCC Meet and Greet
    Audience member: ...that were released for Star Trek Online... ...the static images I feel are [something], great background detail [something]. ...but at least with the Federation ships, they look like they're lacking in detail. Is that because they're not really complete or is it how they're gonna look?

    Craig Zinkievich: No, the ships that we have in there are the way that we expect the ships to look. Uh, I'm sure that... I'll be honest with you, if you've been following you can tell the difference between the environment shots that we released recently and the ones that we released four months ago, so as time goes on, I mean we do tweak, we do listen to feedback, we do make stuff better or different... ...but the art that is in there, we do expect to be final art, but y'know things could change.


    Lets see if the STO community verbally assults me or each other before the day is out... i hope not...

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    Re: Water Down Cartoon

    Post by Stronin on Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:52 pm

    They try to build these games to include every system possible, due to the high cost of producing an MMO they need every subscriber they can get *shrug* I'm not saying a high end gaming rig, couldn't process higher detail but what about the guys on Pentium 3's? Or lowend laptops, ya know? This is their thought process.

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    Re: Water Down Cartoon

    Post by Baumer on Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:25 pm

    I understand. That's why you create broad graphics options. A "low end" version and a "High end" version and various settings in between.


    Most MMO's have that ability, I'm jsut asking if what they are showing now IS the high end or somewhere in between.

    I have a pretty good machine that can handle graphics when I make the upgrades that I am about to make... I just want to know...



    By the way... I was right... I knew I would be attacked when I asked the question lol.

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    Re: Water Down Cartoon

    Post by Stronin on Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:52 am

    it's a bit of sensitive issue, I probably could have told you that was going to happen Smile

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    Re: Water Down Cartoon

    Post by Baumer on Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:11 pm

    You didn't have to. I already knew it was coming. but I asked anyway... Very Happy

    The trick is to cuddle them with kindness when they attack you... they hate that...

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